pistols for lightweight bitches

topic posted Tue, March 16, 2004 - 10:40 AM by  Foxy
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Hey to all you bitches.
I am currently practicing under my boyfriends guidance - so far I have a handle on a FAL rifle which I can shoot really well since it has a fabulous site on it, Glock 15, Styer Ogg, shotgun ... - We have just started doing some falling plate matches (pistol). And I suck suck suck. I have to shoot with the Glock which kicks back like a mo-fo and he keeps saying "It's not a beginners gun". Okay. So I'm developing this flinch and everyone at the range is trying to help. Letting me shoot their guns and giving me lighter ammo etc
I think that being 118lbs makes a lot of difference to being 220lbs in terms of what is comfortable to handle especially in a match where there's more "pressure".
I got to shoot this other bitches(the only other girl there!) revolver with a halogen site and was 100% on target.
What's your fav. pistol? What should I test out? Love to hear from you bitches.
XOX - Foxy
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  • Re: pistols for lightweight bitches

    Tue, March 16, 2004 - 10:49 AM
    Personally, I think Glocks don't point very well, but that's just an opinion.

    It's probably not so much the gun as the caliber. What caliber are you using? If your boyfriend is shooting .45 ACP or .40S&W and you're getting flinchy, maybe you should try 9mm or .38 super.

    My wife has a 1911 officer-style shooting 38 super and she LOVES it. She doesn't care much for my full size 1911 shooting .45 acp.

    Just a thought.
    • Re: pistols for lightweight bitches

      Tue, March 16, 2004 - 11:21 AM
      Or even take a step down to .22. I find them great for teaching with.

      The Ruger mark II bull barrel. Light, little recoil, very cheap to shoot.
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        Re: pistols for lightweight bitches

        Mon, April 26, 2004 - 1:59 PM
        I can second the recommendation for the Ruger Mark II Target. I used to own one (even though I am definitely not a lightweight bitch), and it's a great pistol for frequest target shooting. I had the long-barrel (6.5in) model. The ammo's about a penny a round, it has a nice, balanced weight to it, and it's stainless steel, which I think it easier to clean and well, just looks cool.
        Rugers are a bit complicated to field-strip, though.
  • Re: pistols for lightweight bitches

    Tue, March 16, 2004 - 11:49 AM
    I'm 200 lbs, and I can't hit the broad side of a barn with a Glock. BUT with anything else watch out. I just can't get used to that two-stage trigger and as I'm firing it throws my aim off. My solution? A nice Sig P226 for each hand.
    • Re: pistols for lightweight bitches

      Tue, March 16, 2004 - 11:57 AM
      Each hand, huh? You crazy ambidextrous shooters, and your John Woo movies!

      ...but in answer to the issue at hand (har, har, har) my wife started with a Sig P232 .380, and worked her way up to a 9mm. Now she loves her Glock, and can drive tacks with it 'till the tacks run out.
      • Re: pistols for lightweight bitches

        Tue, March 16, 2004 - 12:32 PM
        Amen to that, I just can't make it work for me. Just chalk it up to operator error.

        One of my faves is the ubiquitous Walther PPK, but for a small gun it kicks like a mule, but a better belly gun I can't think of. Oh yeah, and there was that 2" group at 50 feet...
  • Re: pistols for lightweight bitches

    Tue, March 16, 2004 - 1:42 PM
    You might want to think about moving to a steel-frame gun instead of a polymer (like a Glock) - the weight of the pistol will absorb more of the concussion feedback that you're feeling in your hand (which is probably adding to your "flinch")

    Glocks are always going to be a wee bit "jumpy" for some people 'cuz the gun is SO light-weight... I notice that when I fire my Glock... which means I have to grip it and brace against it a differently than I do my steel-frames.

    Sometimes it's not just the caliber of the gun - but the "feedback" the shooter feels from it. I've shot some .45-acp through a 1911 by ParaOrdinance that was smooth as silk (gawd, I wish I could still one of those in California with the hi-cap magazines) and I barely even felt any recoil. And I can't put more than a dozen rounds through my Taurus .38-Special snubbie without losing the feeling in my hand 'cuz the sucker stings like a b*tch every time I pull the trigger!
  • Re: pistols for lightweight bitches

    Tue, March 16, 2004 - 10:22 PM
    I want to heartily second two points raised earlier

    - try a 22 - don't underestimate the effect of having to spend $12 or $15 on 100 rounds of ammo (9mm, 38 special, 45acp) vs. $15 for 500 rounds of 22. Plus almost no recoil, you can really work on your grip, trigger pull, breath control

    - try a steel frame gun. My girlfriend who has very weak wrists shoots a 90 year old Webley mark 1 revolver converted to 45acp that must weigh 6 lbs - the weight of the gun absorbs a ton of the recoil.

    You can do the best of both by getting a good 1911 and getting a 22 caliber conversion kit for it.
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    The simple pleasures of the Mark II

    Mon, March 22, 2004 - 9:31 PM
    Heya.

    Dude, I've got a cabinet full of pistols and a few long guns. And my favorite for actually going out and making holes in things is my ancient Ruger Mark II .22 auto.

    It's really fun to shoot, it won't make you deaf (that's what motorcycles are for, silly!), it won't give you wrist fatigue (that's what masturbation is for, silly!), ammo is dirt cheap, and you can vasectomize a fly at 50 yards with it.

    Larger caliber (usually) = better defensive weapon, but smaller caliber (always) = more fun in the long run.

    And when the fuck are we going on a class trip down to Jackson Arms, eh?
    • Re: The simple pleasures of the Mark II

      Fri, March 26, 2004 - 10:29 AM
      In response to Daze: "Are there any restrictions (caliber wise,) for the competitions you are shooting in?"

      No, so it's a good chance to shoot with something that I really like - when I find out what I really like that is. But it's just dismal shooting with a pistol (ie the Glock 15)that I don't have a handle on yet.

      Mucho thanks for all the posts. It's bin educational!

      As a side note we were also talking about the baby glock as the gun for me - Anyone got any feedback on the baby glock?
      • Re: The simple pleasures of the Mark II

        Fri, March 26, 2004 - 1:59 PM
        Baby Glocks?? ...even SMALLER and lighter than a standard glock - which means it'll kick and jump even MORE than a standard. If you've got SMALL hands then maybe they'll be alright for you - the sawed off grips on those things are ridiculous for me (half my hand hangs off the bottom of those things - so if I don't buy the grip-extensions to slap on the bottom of the magazines - I can barely hold 'em!)

        General problem with ALL sub-compact firearms - ITTY BITTY barrel length, which effects accuracy (harder to hit a target with a 2-inch barrel than a 5-inch barrel).

        The plus sides - small & lightweight (easy to carry). Glock durability & consistency (it takes a BEATING & you hardly ever really worry about the thing breaking on ya). However, Glocks & Glock-parts AREN'T cheap...
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        Re: The simple pleasures of the Mark II

        Sat, March 27, 2004 - 7:16 PM
        revolvers, go with the revolvers. so much fun, so accurate, and no shells flying around! i found a .44 (or was it a .45, jon would know) so much fun to shoot, but with magnum loads it was a bit much - too uh manly? eh, just a bit of overkill for my needs. who needs 12" - 10" is plenty, you know?

        i do like seeing what i've shot, which is another reason i like the higher caliber handguns. rifles are fun, but i don't get to shoot often so i like to know i hit. or didn't hit! maybe it was the armor piercing rounds - they bore me. ha.
  • Re: pistols for lightweight bitches

    Sun, June 20, 2004 - 4:08 PM
    I weigh around 130 lbs and have shot a Glock 21, 19, a 17 and a .357 Magnum. I've noticed that as my arm strength has increased from weight lifting, I've developed a steadier arm and now have no problem hitting the target.

    On another note, after going to my local indoor range and playing around with the rentals, I've developed a taste for the 9mm Beretta, which (for me) combines some of the best elements of the Glock with that of a lighter weapon; not only does it not have the kick of a Glock, it's got a decent amount of firepower and the grip fits my small hand a little better.
  • Re: pistols for lightweight bitches

    Thu, June 24, 2004 - 11:08 AM
    eh, glocks. big, square grip - never liked them.

    I avoided trying 1911s forever because I thought that they'd be too big, heavy and explosiony. But they are narrow enough that they fit even smaller hands pretty well. My fave is my Kimber Pro Carry. 26 oz unloaded. The Kimber triggers are nice from the factory, as well...my friend's Springfield trigger is annoyingly heavy.

    I don't think that the amount of recoil is really an issue after you work through the flinch, which took me a while. Do lotsa dry-firing, focus on the front sight & follow-through. And many short range sessions work better than going every once in a while and shooting boxes of ammo.

    22s are nice (I have a Browning Buckmark) for getting your mechanics down & shooting a lot & cheaply, but didn't really help me get over flinching.
  • Re: pistols for lightweight bitches

    Thu, July 8, 2004 - 12:55 PM
    Get a GP100 6 inch in .357 Mag and fire 38 specials out of it. When you are ready the upgrade to .357 is free.
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      Re: pistols for lightweight bitches

      Fri, August 27, 2004 - 9:53 PM
      I find that I have trouble with the "full" sized autos and I'm not small 6'2" and 230 pounds ......... but my hands are ....... make sure that whatever you are shooting with does not feel too large in your grip. full size 1911's are uncomfortable for me, just because of grip shape ........ Sape with some of the 9mm that use a double/staggered magazine ...... the grip gets too large to be comfortable.

      The other thing is to experiment with the same basic gun but with different grip styles on it ........ this can greatly change your site picture and grip comfort.

      I like the recoil and punch of a 38 super ....... the above advice of getting a full sized 357 and shooting 38s through it initially was good

      Take a look at the browing buckmarks in a target setup .....
      • Re: pistols for lightweight bitches

        Fri, August 27, 2004 - 10:30 PM
        And I'll always champion the Makarov, about $200, intermediate between .380 and 9x19 in power. VERY reliable and accurate for the money.
        • Re: pistols for lightweight bitches

          Fri, October 8, 2004 - 3:13 PM
          I'm with Silly Old B about this one. My boyfriend's got his Springfield 1911, and I've shot both that and the Glock 357(?). HATED the Glock, don't like the kick, and the damn thing's not as pretty as the 1911. The only gripe I've had about the 1911 is it's a little long, barrel-wise, for my asetics, but it sounds like Silly Old B's wife's found the solution, I'll have to take a look.
  • Re: pistols for lightweight bitches

    Fri, October 8, 2004 - 4:55 PM
    I would recommend a full framed single stack 1911 style .45 auto. The gun may feel heavier in hand but the added mass will counter balance felt recoil and the use of a lighter grained bullet will allow for more control with your follow up shot.
    • Re: pistols for lightweight bitches

      Fri, October 8, 2004 - 5:02 PM
      I honestly don't mind the weight, it's reassuring. I can't stand the polymer after shooting the Glock, it feels like a toy. I like the steel frames, didn't know they were called that until this post. I'll have to try that with a lighter grained bullet... think I shot 150s last time... any particular grain recommendation?

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