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first, the lady uberbabe says hello. please consider this my first post because, well, it is.
i spent a bit of time in the middle east in the mid90s, and was introduced to the baretta. ahem. a very fine little gun. a lady's gun, a silly boy i dated back then told me. i'm wondering if anyone else has used this gun and if so, what you think of it. i'm in the market for something sleek and special for target practice. and no, that doesn't include shooting little bigots. but in my quiet dreams, it could. ; >
i spent a bit of time in the middle east in the mid90s, and was introduced to the baretta. ahem. a very fine little gun. a lady's gun, a silly boy i dated back then told me. i'm wondering if anyone else has used this gun and if so, what you think of it. i'm in the market for something sleek and special for target practice. and no, that doesn't include shooting little bigots. but in my quiet dreams, it could. ; >
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Re: hello and... anyone shot a baretta?
Mon, March 7, 2005 - 3:56 PMi own a baretta 96 full size its a great gun handles
nicely easy to take apart to clean an i got it at a great price
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Re: hello and... anyone shot a baretta?
Sun, March 13, 2005 - 4:03 PMThe 96 shoots .40 smith and wesson. How do you like that caliber?
Does it have ambidextrous safety and slide releases like the 92 (US Military) model?
BTW, beware early model 92's due to the appalling slide failure problem after as little as 1000 rounds. Tended to put out eyes!
Sasquatch
just pawn in game of life
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Re: hello and... anyone shot a baretta?
Tue, March 15, 2005 - 6:03 PMlove the 40 cal ! it came with ambidextrous safety
but not with the slide release.
yes i remember that about the 92's i think that
is why the navy went to sigs ?
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Re: hello and... anyone shot a baretta?
Mon, March 7, 2005 - 4:20 PMgot a tiny little model 1935 .32
very nice little piece.
check the photo gallery, amber is showing it off there.
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Re: hello and... anyone shot a baretta?
Tue, March 15, 2005 - 1:35 PMI have in the military :)
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Re: hello and... anyone shot a baretta?
Tue, March 15, 2005 - 11:51 PMHandguns are kind of like shoes...
That's in the respect that fit is pretty important. If you just like whatever model of Beretta pistol it was you shot and want one, more power to you sista, go get one.
But I'd want to give you the chance to handle other pistols too before I handed one over to you as the one you saddle up with.
There are lots of pistols out there with lots of grip frame shapes and even more possibilities of aftermarket grip stocks.
Fit and feel are a huge part of the equation of wether or not you're going to be able to do good target work with a pistol.
For the most part, tight little groups are good (and tend to be really rewarding to the shooter) and huge groups of 'sometimes hitting the black part of the target...' are bad and not so rewarding to the shooter.
Good fit will tend to reduce the discomfort associated with recoil too.
Have you handled or shot any other pistols besides the Beretta?
Have you shot any other cartriges besides the one the Beretta you fired was chambered in?
Do you think you'd ever want to do any reloading or hunting with your handgun?
stuff to think about...
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Re: hello and... anyone shot a baretta?
Thu, March 17, 2005 - 9:29 PMthat's very good advice. and i do like shoes. that's a different pleasure. ; >
i've shot a ruger model, no recollection what kind, and couple of variety of shotguns. i didn't like the recoil on the ruger and shotguns were just to hit tin cans, that sort of thing. i did try my hand with an ak-47 once. but that's a story for sleepytim...
thanks, all for the tips... i'll continue my hunt for the perfect target weapon... -
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Re: hello and... anyone shot a baretta?
Fri, March 18, 2005 - 1:45 PMM9 aka Berretta is a cheap piece of shit. You can get more of a accurate pistol and I advise getting a bigger round. Because the 9mm has little knock down power. It takes a few rounds to drop a person. -
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Re: hello and... anyone shot a baretta?
Fri, March 18, 2005 - 4:27 PMI'm a big fan of Sigs for double actions and Springfields for single actions, but I have to give the Baretta some props. I wouldn't buy one, myself (I'd save an extra $100 or so for a Sig 220 or go for a 239 if I wanted something to carry), but it's the most thoroughly tested handgun on the market, thanks to the US military trials. It's extremely reliable, so if you like the feel of the gun and you like the caliber (I'd personally suiggest getting the Model 96 in a .40, rather than the 9mm), it's really a solid gun. -
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Re: hello and... anyone shot a baretta?
Fri, March 18, 2005 - 10:33 PMI agree With You On The .40 rd. But I want to let you know it is a work horse handgun. Can go through more enviroment test than most pistols and hold out.
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Re: hello and... anyone shot a baretta?
Sat, March 19, 2005 - 1:52 AM<-- Worked in a gun store
I've looked at the police statistics (the police *showed* them to me) ... the biggest factor in disabling or killing your target isn't caliber, it's (A) being ready, able, and willing to shoot, (B) being able to HIT your target, and (C) using some variety of hollow point.
In that order.
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Re: hello and... anyone shot a baretta?
Sat, March 19, 2005 - 10:59 AMI love my springfield xd 40, and found it easier to shoot with less recoil than a 9mm bereta (sory I don't remember the model). Historyteller brings up some excelent points though. In adition, I have heard several times that almost all gunfights end with only a couple of rounds being fired, If true then magazine capacity would be somewhat irelivent to. for these reasons and the ones Historyteller stated I have bin thinking of getting a 357 revolver for some time now. -
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Thu, March 24, 2005 - 7:13 PMThe .357 DA revolver is still probably the best home defense firearm short of a 12 ga. pump. They're fairly inexpensive, durable as heck, super-reliable (almost impossible to jam--just squeeze and you get a new chamber), and you can load them in anything from wimpy .38s to crazy-hot .357 handloads.
fwiw, the Ruger GP100 is my pick for the best value. Not as flashy as the S&W 686, but a stronger frame, and $100 cheaper. If you're on a budget, I'd say go withg a Taurus. You still get a lifetime warranty. -
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Unsu...
wheelguns...
Thu, March 24, 2005 - 7:22 PMI love revolvers, I probabally have ten of them, mabye eleven. I'd have to count.
They are not invulnerable to jams though.
I've seen revolvers hauled down to thier knees and jammed to all belly hell by high primers.
I've competed -a lot- with my 1911 style .45s
The 1911 will jam too, but with a 1911 and proper training, it's a couple of seconds away from running again.
A stuck revolver with a f-u'd primer is a project to get running again.
Any gun can jam.
I've seen stuck single barrel break action shotguns go to hell.
Training and a good plan is what will give you a chance to make it past a stuck gun problem.
Don't think there's one kind of gun that will always work for you.
The closest thing I've seen to that is the Glock.
That's gonna depend on what it's chambered in too, of the multitudes of guns I've seen in competition and training, I've seen the least troubles with the Glock. Never seen a glock fail in training, the only ones I've seen fail in competition were due to bad ammo and were back running within a second or seconds.
Not to slap the revolver, I love them.
Just don't bet your life on a revolver to make it through anything and everything without fail.
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Re: hello and... anyone shot a baretta?
Thu, March 24, 2005 - 10:32 PMlady uberbabe,
if i read your post correctly, you're interested in a target pistol. as far as plinking or self defense goes, service weapons are great, but they aren't what i'd suggest for target shooting.
another point is that if your friend called the Berreta a "lady's gun". It was probably a lesser caliber (.22-.25-.32 or even .380)... as well as a compact sized pistol (far from the full sized model 92).
so, if it's a minor caliber you're after, and you want to shoot at targets, I think you'd be better served by a Ruger Mk 4 (if that's what they're calling their rimfire pistol these days?).
t
as an aside;
if the military trials really determined the best pistol for the armed forces, then they would have chosen the SIG. Berreta was just willing to make a few more concessions ($$$ wise) to get the U.S. military contract. -
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Re: hello and... anyone shot a baretta?
Fri, March 25, 2005 - 1:28 AMAre they calling the old mark II the mark 4 now?
hm.
Another thing to note is that it's really cheap to shoot the .22 rimfire.
the 1911 style .45 has been a winning target shooting pistol for generations.
It's been a constant regular at the trials at Camp Perry for ages.
.45acp might be more than some want to handle, but the round has excellent accuracy potential and the ergonomics and trigger of the 1911 have been developed quite well specifically for target shooting. I've shot thousands of rounds of informal and competition target shooting through my pair of 1911s and they have always been amazingly accurate.
Still, I hear you Tony.
For target shooting, it's hard to beat a good rimfire .22
And that Ruger is a really nice pistol and an excellent value, especially when you account for the cost of ammunition.
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Re: hello and... anyone shot a baretta?
Wed, March 30, 2005 - 12:52 PMI have the Ruger Mk III, and I love it. Mechanically, it's not all that different from the Mk II (it has a tapped barrel, a new chamber loaded" indicator, a more standard magazine release, etc.), so if you can find an unused Mk II at a deep discount, you might want to pick it up instead.
I agree about the 1911s. My dad was a (pre-Baretta, 1965-1968) Marine, and he won't shoot anything else, if he can avoid it. He's also a gunsmith, so he has tremendous repect for the elegance and reliability of the design.
My only warnings about the 1911:
* Still not the best home defense weapon for someone not thoroughly familiar with the gun. The safety and the fact that it's single-action mean that you really have to practice to the point where the extra operational stuff is automatic. Not that it's a bad thing. I know police who carry them as their duty weapon (usually ex-military who carry "cocked and locked" with the safety on, the hammer back, and a round in the chamber, but they've been doing this for years. Basically, it's not as idiot-proof with a round in the chamber as a Glock. But then again, I hate Glocks. :)
* Not all 1911s are equal. All sorts of armories make the design, and some have bettter quality control and raw materials than others. Kimber and Springfield make great 1911s, and the entry-level Springfield is pretty affordable and upgradeable. If you're going to compete with it, I'd suggest buying the most expensive 1911 you like, as you'll get way more feastured than you could customize aftermarket for less money, and you won't void any warranties. That said, even the Mil-Spec Springfield is great.
If you like the 1911 and you want a rimfire pistol, Ruger makes a gun called the 22/45 that has a grip shaped like the 1911 and the same balance. It's cheap, and designed to let 1911 shooters practice with a .22. -
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Re: hello and... anyone shot a baretta?
Wed, March 30, 2005 - 3:10 PMthank you, gentlemen. i feel thoroughly versed in the nuances of sexy target weapons. ; > -
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Unsu...
For the sexy target shooterbabe...
Wed, March 30, 2005 - 8:41 PMHe's right about that 1911.
Gotta get training and know it instinctively.
Anything with a bunch of catches, latches, and hatches is gonna be a handful of -what the fuck- when the shit hits the fan if you're not perpared for it.
That said, I carry my 1911 cocked and locked -- round in the chamber and the hammer back, safety up and ready to run. I've had the training and thousands and thousands of rounds of practice and competition.
My 1911s are a consecutive serial numbered early production Kimbers that immediately went back to the factory for even finer tuning than they came with from the factory. My .22 autoloader is either one of these 45's with a 22 top end on it. The 1911 can go from caliber to caliber in about 20 seconds by simply flipping the slide off and replacing it and swapping magazines.
22, 9mm, .40, .38 super, and lots and lots of other cartridges can be run through a 1911 with this simple to do conversion. A good subcaliber top end costs about $250-$375 with it's own set of sights and magazine.
My .22 top end works great with cheap-ass bulk .22 ammo and is great for staying fresh with from-the-holster drills and live fire magazine changes...
Good stuff.
Funny though, my favorite target 22 is my Smith and Wesson K-22. That thing's super accurate, better than 1.5" center to center at fifty yards with almost anything that I put through it.
Great little revolver, I just got a new set of grip stocks for it today!
Next week I pick up my new S&W revolver. It's gonna be my pig gun, the Performance Center .500 Hunter. Got 100 nickel plated Starline cases, two different brands of bullets, dies, scope rings and some other assorted crap coming for it. That all should be here this weekend. I'll have it out to get it sighted in by late next week.
tee hee hee...
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Re: hello and... anyone shot a baretta?
Fri, April 1, 2005 - 1:34 PMHad a 21a in .22 - very picky w/ ammo and you still had to have a death grip on it for it to cycle properly. Fits in your pocket though.
Target practice? I always recommend the GP100 in .357 mag. 6 inch. Shoot 38's through it if you don't like the noise.
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Re: hello and... anyone shot a baretta?
Fri, April 1, 2005 - 3:35 PMThe berretta 21(like the baby browning) is a great pocket pistol, but not an adequate target shooter by anyone's standards.
They're both meant for self defense at point blank range.
I carry my 1911s (as well as any of my other autos) MOSAD style, where you're drawing and cycling the pistol in (practically) one continuos move. This way, no matter what type of safeties, wether double or single action trigger; the pistol will always be ready to go.
If you think of it this way, safeties are for after you're through shooting.
As this is a thread about a fun first time target pistol... I apologize (in advance) if this is keepiing it off track.
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Re: hello and... anyone shot a baretta?
Mon, April 25, 2005 - 11:02 AMBeretta 92/96 is no ladies gun. First, the military and loads of police forces use them for duty weapons. Second, the .40 has plenty of knockdown power, and even the 9mm is adequate, though marginal. And they are full-size weapons. A gal with small hands is gonna have a problem.
That said, most women can handle it, with practice. I've even taught a few on it, or the Vertec varient, some of them gals with no prior shooting experience, with little difficulty.
Maintainence is easy, too.
Carrie-Anne Moss looked real hot firing a pair of them in the first scene of "The Matrix", though. -
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Re: hello and... anyone shot a baretta?
Mon, April 25, 2005 - 4:02 PMwere the two pistols Carrie Anne Moss shot (after flying through the window in the opening escape scene) 92s? for some reason, i failed to catch what they were.
also, i believe you'll find that the beretta people are referring to as ladies guns are the .22 and .25 compacts.
in closing, some pistols come in single stack variants... these ought to fit smaller hands better than the usual double stacked weapons.
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Re: hello and... anyone shot a baretta?
Mon, April 25, 2005 - 8:10 PMi took my ex girl friend out shooting with my 96 sat she handed it really
well i just have to work alittle on her stance and her trigger control
but some how she still shootes a good group. in the next month
she should be getting her 45 can't wait to see how she shootes
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Re: hello and... anyone shot a baretta?
Mon, April 25, 2005 - 8:26 PMHmm only just saw this post, I am a big fan of baretta's I have a 92 and a 8045, both shoot very well. Never had a problem with either. -
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Re: hello and... anyone shot a baretta?
Wed, April 27, 2005 - 10:40 AMCan I recommend the Springfield XD? I recently purchased the sub-compact XD-9 and after putting about 350 rounds through it, I instantly fell in love. That same day I also fired a Baretta 92. Also a very fun handgun to shoot. I will put a pic of it in the tribe photo album.
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