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OK, I got an email on a newsgroup I am on that warned of legislation someone is trying to get for San Francisco that would mean that all gun owners would have to turn in their arms....then I lost it in the plethora of email I get every day....
Has anyone here heard of this? or have any details? or know which elected official we need to write to stop this?
Any info is appreciated,
thanks,
marie-angelique
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Re: San Francisco legislation pending to outlaw private fireams ownership?
Sat, March 19, 2005 - 10:18 PMyeah, this is a big part of why i started poking around online for gun stuff.
the deal is they have it on the ballot for Nov t ovote to
1st) Outright BAN all HANDguns in the city of SF
2nd) Ban all sales of firearms in the city.
so you would be able to keep rifles.
WORSE NEWS- the plan includes confiscating all handguns (that they can find/ track down) , and Lo and Behold, our Fabulous mayor has no plan as yet as to what happens to the guns.
Seems an awful lot like the Police are about to steal all of SF's handguns.
Does anybody think all guns confiscated, even when they are supposedly destoying them, do these guns get destoyed?
or do the cops lose a few that they like ?, take them home?
given that our police are so honest, uncorruptible even, they would never do that , would they?
this idea is insane. not to mention the whole thing was sparked by a gang member with an AK-47 ? (handgun? what?) shooting a police officer in hunterspoint. lets disarm the legal owners and pray all those felons cough up their guns as well.......
i believe similar legislation has been attempted and then struck down.
Newsom doesnt seem to care much about the actual legality of the laws he imposes/backs as long as there is some money to be made.
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Re: San Francisco legislation pending to outlaw private fireams ownership?
Sat, March 19, 2005 - 10:18 PMoh , duh, here's a link forgot to include it
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Re: San Francisco legislation pending to outlaw private fireams ownership?
Sun, March 20, 2005 - 2:21 PM
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Re: San Francisco legislation pending to outlaw private fireams ownership?
Sun, March 20, 2005 - 5:42 PMThats pretty weak. Do you think fellow SF'ers will vote for this?
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Re: San Francisco legislation pending to outlaw private fireams ownership?
Sun, March 20, 2005 - 5:58 PM
I'm afraid I +do+ think SF voters will :(
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Re: San Francisco legislation pending to outlaw private fireams ownership?
Wed, April 13, 2005 - 11:03 PMThey can vote for it until Reagan's thawed out and president again. San Francisco isn't a nation unto it'self and the California constitution specifically holds that all firearms legislation comes from Sacramento. It will not stand.
Q: Why is it that people with lifetime security details are always so quick to disarm everyone else?
Sasquatch
Up the 2nd
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Re: San Francisco legislation pending to outlaw private fireams ownership?
Thu, April 14, 2005 - 8:23 AMAhhh, thank you for that info, Sasquatch, (exhales a deep breath).
I am still going to continue to work for the failure of this measure as I wouldn't like to see a trend build.
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Re: San Francisco legislation pending to outlaw private fireams ownership?
Thu, April 14, 2005 - 5:03 PMRegarding what happens to confiscated firearms in SF...
many years ago, I and a group of friends went to Los Altos Rod and Gun Club to do some shooting.
On our way back to the city, his mother came up ill, so we threw everything into his trunk and he sped off to see after his mother.
The rest of us were on motorcycles, so the safest way to transport our arsenal was to use someone's car. Long story short... police pull him over in SF and when he advises them that he has firearms in the trunk, they confiscate my handgun. They're reason is that since he is not 21 years of age, he should not legally be carrying a handgun in his vehicle.
He isn't cited or charged with anything. I take about 6 weeks worth of time trying to track down my confiscated handgun. Making about 8 appearances at 850 Bryant St as well as City Hall. Eventually, I'm led downstairs at 850 Bryant (hall of justice) and given back my firearm. It comes in a nice hard plastic storage case (nicer than the cloth one it was wrapped with) as well as 3 magazines (i only had 2 at the time it was taken away).
Moral of the story, the cops pretty much do what they want with your stuff... there is a policy for firearms used in a crime to be destroyed by the city, but i've known two cops kids who had nice gun collections with some examples of dubious origin.
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Re: San Francisco legislation pending to outlaw private fireams ownership?
Thu, April 14, 2005 - 5:19 PMyeah my friends are cops and they scare the shit out of me in what they own and their home safety with them....i say everybody gets guns. -
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Re: San Francisco legislation pending to outlaw private fireams ownership?
Thu, April 14, 2005 - 11:24 PMit's definitely a sobering factor...
how about a ballot initiative outlawing the board of supes from criminalizing anything that is guaranteed us under the US constitution.
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Re: San Francisco legislation pending to outlaw private fireams ownership?
Fri, April 15, 2005 - 5:18 PM"how about a ballot initiative outlawing the board of supes from criminalizing anything that is guaranteed us under the US constitution."
how could we get that happening?
if we can pass a freakin pot law here, we should be able to pass that as well.
of ocurse, doensat mean the city will listen.
this ban was shot down by state courts last time, even the CA constitution is enough to keep this law ineffective -
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Re: San Francisco legislation pending to outlaw private fireams ownership?
Sat, April 16, 2005 - 3:44 PMI can't figure on how many signatures we'd need to get an initiative on the ballot... but each and every one of the signatuires has to be from a registered San Francisco voter...
since we have only one gun shop left in SF, it's not like we'll be able to leave a clipboard there and think everyone and their brother is going to come in and sign it... it's definitely going to take some footwork.
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